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11 AutoData | April 2018 time strengthen the one in Jacareí. The two factories have to be strengthened, and in this model initially proposed was not like that, it did not strengthen Anna- polis, therwas only one product planned there. And how did business happen even on that terms? Some time later Chery came to me again, I reaffirmed that I would close the deal only if the business model changed completely. And we came to a wonderful, spectacular settlement. There was still a deadlock in the end, I was already in China to sign the con- tract and asked to include one more clause. It was a tremendous rush of la- wyers there and here, with time zone and everything, and in the end they ad- ded it. The contract was ready one hour before the scheduled closing time for the meeting. Then I went with my heart open, signed it and that was it. It was a beautiful reception, very luxurious, which I never imagined, all the Chery executives were there. So that Hyundai list did not contain any kind of restrictions on the production of another brand in Anápolis? No, but it can be done only if it is se- parated. We are modeling in a way that productive operations do not mix, do not communicate. Peoplewhowill produce Chery do not have access to Hyundai and vice versa. It’s all separate. Even in the panting shop? Not in the painting shop. It will be com- mon. One propaganda of yours says that a gre- at country needs a national automaker. Why do you believe this business model with Chery really represents that? This business model will make that everythin be developed for Brazil, within Brazil and for Brazil. In the first version of the contract, the one I did not sign, it did not contain that term. The cars will be developed together, and theywill be very interesting cars. The engineers will work together in both factories. This only happened because Xi Jinping [president of China, recently re-elected] wants to support and develop the BRICs. He re- alized that the United States is holding China, and so this is the model hewants, in support of developing countries. It is making a 100% national factoryviable. It’s the thought of him, and if it was not that it would not have happened. That is why Chery has opened up so much to CAOA, to the point of making an agreement for a factory that is truly national. But still it is a 50% - 50% agreement, isn’t it? In Jacareí, yes. But in Anápolis it is 100% CAOA. And they’re giving everything for us, to develop cars there, in Goiás. And the distribution of CAOA-Cherymo- dels will be under the responsibility of who? We need to be careful about that. We are distributors in theory, the company that will distribute is another one. I’ll give the concession. We’re talking about howmuch time for these CAOA-Chery models developed here to hit the market? Around 2019, 2020. The Tiggo 2 already has a lot of Brazilian things, but not in its origin, our business with Chery started now. “The business model with Chery will make that everything be developed for Brazil, within Brazil and for Brazil. They’ll be very interesting cars.”