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10 FROM THE TOP » MIGUEL JORGE, OF BARRAL M JORGE November 2018 | AutoData one has ever been there to present an industrial plan for growth, job opening, modernization. That is why the indus- try lost relevance, was surpassed by agribusiness and services, it has been 40% of GDP once and now accounts for something like 17%. I used to say, and irritated a lot of people with this: ‘You have to mirror in agribusiness because it changed when it lost the incentives and today is the largest of this area in the world.’ But agribusiness still has a lot of in- centive. Not compared to what the USA has in terms of incentive for example. And the agribusiness has been through a bigmo- dernization process, something that has not been seen in the automotive industry. Can it be understood, then, from the probable future Minister of Economy’s speech, that negotiations involving in- centives for the automotive industry will end? I believe so, and it should end. You have to stimulate investment. As there is a huge taxation all businessmen pay tax only via company, legal entity, and no- thing as private individuals. I often say that the only businessman who pays income tax in Brazil is Sílvio Santos. It “When I was a minister, I received Anfavea and it was easier for me, I would say to my colleagues, including some that I had already worked with: ‘Boy, do not tell me that because I know it’s not like that’.” is necessary to create some kind of process in which the entrepreneur is stimulated to produce, and this will only happen when protectionism diminishes. Competition alone can make the en- trepreneur move, it is not the subsidy or the incentive. We have this problem. There is an old but still present phrase: the company may go bad but the bu- sinessperson always goes well. Isn’t Rota 2030 positive for bringing pre- dictability, particularly with regard to energy efficiency, for example? I think so, and I think that part is going to happen in Congress, but a few things still need to be said, to indicate in ad- vance what the energy efficiency inde- xes will be, which will be voted exactly. Otherwise it is a vault. In my time as a