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11 AutoData | November 2018 everything is very far ahead and the technologies already exist. What about the incentive question for the North, Northeast and Midwest re- gions of Brazil? Yes, I understand that it is necessary to create some incentive for a factory to be installed (for example) in Goiana, Pernambuco [the case of FCA], whether for cars or cookies. It is a region with less industrial culture, less wealth, less infrastructure, larger investments will be necessary in several areas, in training etc. But what has to exist, and does not exist, is a deadline for this. Andwhen the deadline ends it has to end, it can’t be extended. That’s not right. If you couldn’t be competitive within the planning you presented to the government and the government granted to you... you can’t extend the deadline indefinitely. How many times will this be extended? What about Mercosur? The future pre- sident and the probable Ministry of Eco- nomy criticized the current operation form of the block. Are there any threats to the negotiations with the European Union? I believe there is an evaluation error. Mercosur is Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay, there is nothing of ideo- minister, for example, I called Inmetro to create what later became the vehicle labeling program, and at that time, one of the Anfavea companies became very angry with me. But it happened, it was approved. And the incentive for R&D foreseen in the program? As far as R&D is concerned, there is a few companies applying resources in this area, Rota is good from this point of view, but there must be assistance, it is no use to establish an objective and then no one is sure of what was actually done, how much was actually spent on that. There is also the work issue: when we made an agreement with the companies some time ago [by reducing the IPI tariff, to combat the global crisis effects], it was mandatory to maintain the employment level it was forbidden to fire people. There was no incenti- ves offsetting due to maintenance or employment increase in Inovar-Auto, and it is not in Rota 2030 as well and should be. There have been conversa- tions about industry modernization, au- tomation, but it is necessary to requalify the workers, there are people who will retire and who will need to be replaced. Not to mention the safety items: there is even a schedule but it is very long,